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md_junkie · March 14th, 2003, 05:00 PM

Hello, my fellow md junkies,

Well, the other day I was searching on the minidisc.org and found a link to the service manuals. I have always wondered what are those for and it happened that I spotted the one for my E900. At the moment of my search I was listening my little E10. I pulled out the manual and I found the sequence on the remote that allow you to enter that stupid mode. The flow of curiosity overwhelmed me and did the sequence on the E10 remote. I didn't believe that the sequence would apply to E10 because the manual was for E900. It worked. I guess Sony keeps the same sequence for the whole current generations of the portable MDs.
After I satisfied my curiosity, I decide to quit the service mode. The manual says that you supposed to take the battery out. As you know, E10 has internal battery so it is not that easy to do. Instead, I tried to reset the battery by switching a little switch on the side. When I pressed PLAY, I saw ERROR on the remote. I decided to take out the battery and power off the unit.
I followed the instructions of how to get the battery out. Unfortunately, it is very very hard to do .

I couldn’t take the battery. After numerous efforts, I gave up and decided to let the unit stay with the batter and maybe eventually the battery drain out itself. However, when I press PLAY button, nothing happened. Not even the error message. The unit was dead. I guess I broke something while reaching for the batter.

Moral of my story: Don’t get into the service mode on E10. Or wait until there would be a service manual for the this unit to properly exit the mode.

Sad. I love my E10. I guess back to E900

pengin · March 14th, 2003, 05:04 PM

o wow.. Hope it gets back to normal!

...
derek

md_junkie · March 14th, 2003, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pengin
o wow.. Hope it gets back to normal!

...
derek

I don't think it will...

When you remove the battery cover, there is a electic circuit that needs to be remove to reach the battery. I guess, I broke that circuit.

Damn... Stupid me

angeldesignpro · March 14th, 2003, 05:13 PM

So sorry for your loss, but thanks all the same for trying it! If no one tried it on their 505/707, we wouldn't be were we are today on that hacking...

Might I suggest trying harder to get the battery out (take it to a jewler, maybe?)

Serge944 · March 14th, 2003, 05:54 PM

yes, definitely try to get it fixed somewhere

dont let a $300 unit go to waste

Superbaldguy · March 14th, 2003, 05:57 PM

I have but one question - is your E900 malfunctioning? If not, there's no reason to even attempt to go into the service mode. You've learned a VERY expensive lesson due to your curioisty. Good luck.

md_junkie · March 14th, 2003, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge944
yes, definitely try to get it fixed somewhere

dont let a $300 unit go to waste

My strategy is to wait untill SONY releases it in the USA and then try to let them fix it. I am not sure that the Japanese warranty will work though. I guess I have to pay for a repair. I'll see whichever is cheaper: repair or new player

md_junkie · March 14th, 2003, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Superbaldguy
I have but one question - is your E900 malfunctioning? If not, there's no reason to even attempt to go into the service mode. You've learned a VERY expensive lesson due to your curioisty. Good luck.

I know.... know...

E900 is fine... it was the manual for it that draw my attention.

50sQuiff · March 14th, 2003, 06:34 PM

ouch ouch and another ouch

I've got that insatiable appetite for fixing things that aint broke too but I would never dream of doing that to my E10! I guess when it's released in the US you'll have to pay a hefty sum for repair :/

PhoenixIgn · March 14th, 2003, 10:16 PM

what a bummer. call up sony and tell them you got it broken or something. I always lie to get stuff fixed under warranty.

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March 14th, 2003, 05:00 PM	#1
md_junkie Apprentice Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 45	Fatal experince with E10: Deadly Service mode Hello, my fellow md junkies, Well, the other day I was searching on the minidisc.org and found a link to the service manuals. I have always wondered what are those for and it happened that I spotted the one for my E900. At the moment of my search I was listening my little E10. I pulled out the manual and I found the sequence on the remote that allow you to enter that stupid mode. The flow of curiosity overwhelmed me and did the sequence on the E10 remote. I didn't believe that the sequence would apply to E10 because the manual was for E900. It worked. I guess Sony keeps the same sequence for the whole current generations of the portable MDs. After I satisfied my curiosity, I decide to quit the service mode. The manual says that you supposed to take the battery out. As you know, E10 has internal battery so it is not that easy to do. Instead, I tried to reset the battery by switching a little switch on the side. When I pressed PLAY, I saw ERROR on the remote. I decided to take out the battery and power off the unit. I followed the instructions of how to get the battery out. Unfortunately, it is very very hard to do . I couldn’t take the battery. After numerous efforts, I gave up and decided to let the unit stay with the batter and maybe eventually the battery drain out itself. However, when I press PLAY button, nothing happened. Not even the error message. The unit was dead. I guess I broke something while reaching for the batter. Moral of my story: Don’t get into the service mode on E10. Or wait until there would be a service manual for the this unit to properly exit the mode. Sad. I love my E10. I guess back to E900 __________________ MD units: DR-480H, Q-77 (Black), MDS JB980 (Silver), E10 (dead), E900, PC3, Vaio MXS10, Headphones: Beyers 831, Grado RS-1, Earbuds: ER-4S, EX70, E888LP Headamps: Cmoy, Total Airhead, Creek OBH-21SE, Grado RA-1

March 14th, 2003, 05:13 PM	#4
angeldesignpro Misanthrope Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Nothern VA Posts: 328	So sorry for your loss, but thanks all the same for trying it! If no one tried it on their 505/707, we wouldn't be were we are today on that hacking... Might I suggest trying harder to get the battery out (take it to a jewler, maybe?) __________________ Usually I try to take it one day at a time, but lately several have attacked me at once. We can picture in our minds a world without war and a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never see it coming.

March 14th, 2003, 05:54 PM	#5
Serge944 Auvi Team Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 293	yes, definitely try to get it fixed somewhere dont let a $300 unit go to waste __________________ player/recorder: MD-DR7 -> Sennheiser HD-590 net md/titling: MZ-N505 room system: M-Audio Revolution -> NXG coaxial -> M-Audio CO2 -> NXG optical -> Sd-nx10 -> Monster THX speaker wire -> Energy Connoisseur C-1

March 14th, 2003, 05:57 PM	#6
Superbaldguy T-Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: New Germany, N.S. Canada Posts: 22,372	I have but one question - is your E900 malfunctioning? If not, there's no reason to even attempt to go into the service mode. You've learned a VERY expensive lesson due to your curioisty. Good luck. __________________ Recorders - MZ-N910 (silver), MZ-R910 (pink), MZ-R909 (blue), MZ-R50 (silver), MZ-S1, MD-DR77 (black), MD-MT831 (silver), MZ-B10 (silver) Hi-MD recorders - MZ-NH1 (sliver), MZ-NH700 (silver/blue) Hi-MD downloader - MZ-NH3D (blue) Hi-MD player - MZ-EH50 (white) Players - MZ-E720 (brown), MZ-E707 (aqua), MZ-E80 (black), MZ-E75 (red), MD-DS77 (black) DAP - Sony NW-HD5 (red) Headphones - ER-4P, MDR-D66SL, MDR-D22SL (silver), PX200, CX300, MDR-E888SP and LP DSLR bodies - Nikon D80 and D40 Nikkor lenses - AF-S 12-24mm f/4, AF-S 16-85mm f/3.5~f/5.6 VR, AF-S 70-300mm f/4.5~f/5.6 VR Third-party lenses - Tamron SP 17-50mm f/2.8 XR Di II LD, Sigma 50-150mm f/2.8 EX HSM, Nikon Speedlites - SB-800 (x2) and SB-600

March 14th, 2003, 05:04 PM	#2
pengin wwjd ...? Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 767	o wow.. Hope it gets back to normal! ... derek

March 14th, 2003, 06:34 PM	#9
50sQuiff comfortable. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Nottingham, UK Posts: 179	ouch ouch and another ouch I've got that insatiable appetite for fixing things that aint broke too but I would never dream of doing that to my E10! I guess when it's released in the US you'll have to pay a hefty sum for repair :/

March 14th, 2003, 10:16 PM	#10
PhoenixIgn Dr. Gonzo Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New York Posts: 1,650	what a bummer. call up sony and tell them you got it broken or something. I always lie to get stuff fixed under warranty. __________________ SAVE ART. PLANT A TREE. Audio Equipment- 40 GB 3G iPod, Blue MZ-N707 (for school) Headphones- Sony D66 Eggos, Sony EX71SL (black), Sony MDR-V250, Sennheiser - MX400, Other- Klipsch Promedia 2.1, Marware SportSuit Case (iPod), and Griffin iTrip Radio Transmitter (iPod)

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